Joe coaches a course participant through an exploration of self-trust. Beginning with an intellectual question about conflicted inner parts, our guest embraces the underlying emotional experience and touches the essence of who she is.

“What’s the ultimate thing that you’re running from?”

“Some sort of spiral effect — I’ve seen people I love spiral into depression or spiral into madness.”

“There’s an abyss in you that you’re avoiding, and your fear is that if you go into that, you won’t come out. So let’s go.”